From Jimcbride@aol.com Tue Feb 2 19:04:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: miatapower@miatapower.net Delivered-To: miatapower@miatapower.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by fieldcircus.milewski.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA1F123C0E5 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 19:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1333o2J011814; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 22:03:50 -0500 Received: from Jimcbride@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id n.d33.6e25a04e (55722); Tue, 2 Feb 2010 22:03:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-de01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-de01.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.168]) by cia-md02.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD025-b2324b68e78a384; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:03:48 -0500 Received: from magic-m05.mail.aol.com (magic-m05.mail.aol.com [172.21.172.76]) by smtprly-de01.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDE017-b2324b68e78a384; Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:03:38 -0500 From: Jimcbride@aol.com Message-ID: <3354.60cce1b7.389a418a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 22:03:38 EST Subject: Re: 94 1.8L To: thefirebuilds@gmail.com, miatapower@miatapower.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3354.60cce1b7.389a418a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5009 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 97.115.202.45 X-AOL-IP: 172.21.172.76 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: Jimcbride@aol.com X-BeenThere: miatapower@miatapower.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Because Too Much is Never Enough List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2010 03:04:04 -0000 --part1_3354.60cce1b7.389a418a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's the opposite of what I've understood, as E85 is supposed to be much harder to ignite. I'll do some more searching. I just know I'm running a gasoline pump. Jim in Tucson In a message dated 2/2/2010 7:56:26 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, thefirebuilds@gmail.com writes: the fuel pumps in e85 cars are setup for spark arresting since e85 is a bit more combustible than regular gasoline. I run about half and half in my 2001. It will start on 80% but the mileage starts to drop off after around 50-60%. Our 87oct gasoline here is already 15%, not sure how the rest of the country is. On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:44 PM, <_Jimcbride@aol.com_ (mailto:Jimcbride@aol.com) > wrote: Bruce, I think E100 will be VERY difficult to start, particularly in cold climate. I've been running E85 in my EVO for the past year and a half. Even though Tucson is relatively warm - 40*F low so far - I still have to inject a bunch of extra fuel to get it to fire off. It is my understanding that ethanol is very hard to ignite; that is the primary reason for the 15% gasoline in E85. E85 will require 30% more fuel by volume (E100 about 40% more). So, for E85 installing injectors that are 30% larger (with a fuel pump that will support the same pressure and the increased flow) should allow the engine to run pretty well on the gasoline tune. Then fine tune to 12:1 AFR (gasoline), or 12.5:1 if you are brave. Jim in Tucson In a message dated 2/1/2010 3:32:03 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, _brucefandrews@comcast.net_ (mailto:brucefandrews@comcast.net) writes: I have 2 questions. 1: What is needed to run E100 ethanol? 2: Does anyone make an aluminum block? Thank you, Bruce _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list _Miatapower@miatapower.net_ (mailto:Miatapower@miatapower.net) _http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower_ (http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower) _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list _Miatapower@miatapower.net_ (mailto:Miatapower@miatapower.net) _http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower_ (http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower) -- _http://BTDTRacing.com_ (http://btdtracing.com/) - World Champion Miata Parts Sales. Now in HD! Our ebay store: _http://stores.ebay.com/btdtracing-36_ (http://stores.ebay.com/btdtracing-36) or Subscribe to our active listings page: _http://esssl.ebay.com/GetListings/btdtracing36?fmt=g_ (http://esssl.ebay.com/GetListings/btdtracing36?fmt=g) This is our decision, to live fast and die young. We've got the vision, now let's have some fun. _______________________________________________ Miatapower mailing list Miatapower@miatapower.net http://list.miatapower.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/miatapower --part1_3354.60cce1b7.389a418a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's the opposite of what I've understood, as E85 is supposed to be= much=20 harder to ignite. I'll do some more searching. I just know I'm running a= =20 gasoline pump.
 
Jim in Tucson
 
 
In a message dated 2/2/2010 7:56:26 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,= =20 thefirebuilds@gmail.com writes:
the fuel pumps in e85 cars are setup for spark arresting since e85= is a=20 bit more combustible than regular gasoline.
 
I run about half and half in my 2001.  It will start on 80% bu= t the=20 mileage starts to drop off after around 50-60%.  Our 87oct gasoline= here=20 is already 15%, not sure how the rest of the country is.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:44 PM, <Jimcbride@aol.com> wrote:
Bruce,
 
I think E100 will be VERY difficult to start, particularly in col= d=20 climate. I've been running E85 in my EVO for the past year and a= half.=20 Even though Tucson is relatively warm - 40*F low so far - I still have= to=20 inject a bunch of extra fuel to get it to fire off. It is my understan= ding=20 that ethanol is very hard to ignite; that is the primary reason for th= e 15%=20 gasoline in E85.
 
E85 will require 30% more fuel by volume (E100 about 40% more).= So, for=20 E85 installing injectors that are 30% larger (with a fuel pump that wi= ll=20 support the same pressure and the increased flow) should allow the eng= ine to=20 run pretty well on the gasoline tune. Then fine tune to 12:1 AFR (gaso= line),=20 or 12.5:1 if you are
brave.
 
Jim in Tucson
 
 

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