RE: NPC: Optima battery question

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Author: Bill Cardell
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To: chris
CC: Miata Powerlist, Mark Cookson
Subject: RE: NPC: Optima battery question

I pinged Zandr the other day, haven't heard back.

Bill Cardell
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www.fmwestfield.com
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From: chris@??? [mailto:chris@???]
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 12:57 PM
To: Bill Cardell
Cc: Miata Powerlist; Donni; Mark Cookson
Subject: RE: NPC: Optima battery question

does anyone know, is the power list now dead?

    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: RE: NPC: Optima battery question
    From: "Bill Cardell" <Bill@???>
    Date: Wed, December 09, 2009 3:52 pm
    To: "Donni" <donni@???>, "Mark Cookson" <mcookson@???>
    Cc: Miata Powerlist <miatapower@???>


    Oddly enough, I believe this is why the alternator is ecu controlled on nb > cars. The ecu looks at the intake air temp as one of the parameters for charging voltage/current. Wouldn't think there would be a strong correlation between air at the MAF and battery temp in the trunk?

    Bill Cardell
    TurboDog's Dad
    www.flyinmiata.com
    www.fmwestfield.com
    Sales 1-800-359-6957
    Tech 970-464-5600 Before you call, check out http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/


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    From: miatapower-bounces@??? [mailto:miatapower-bounces@???] On Behalf Of Donni
    Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:23 PM
    To: Mark Cookson
    Cc: Miata Powerlist
    Subject: Re: NPC: Optima battery question


    If you lay out the cash for a good battery (AGM) don't ruin it with a cheap charger (ask me how I know about this...). Buy a Battery Tender brand or other quality temp sensing, regulated charger. More up front but cheaper in the long run......as with most things.

    For your research and reading pleasure, check out this PDF (page 9 in particular) from one of the major battery manufacturers (pretty sure the Westco is a rebadged WP/Deka as are many others).

    Regarding Absorbed Electrolyte (AGM) type batteries, from the East-Penn PDF (page 9) <http://www.eastpenn-deka.com/assets/base/0139.pdf> ;
    "Automatic temperature-sensing, voltage-regulated chargers must be used.
    Charge voltage must be limited
    (14.4 to 14.6 volts maximum at 68°F)"



    On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Mark Cookson <mcookson@???> wrote:


        Thanks for the tip on the battery charger and cable. The local BatteriesPlus is close to the local Harbor Freight so maybe I can get a new battery and a way to keep from killing it in one shot.

        Sounds like the Optimas are hit or miss. I'll see what BP tries to sell me...

        Thanks everyone!


        Mark

        On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Ross Kuhns <rosskuhns@???> wrote:


            I don't know the ins/outs of Optima's, but really, just put the thing on a float charger; it monitors and only turns itself on when the power drops. They're "plug and forget about it".
            I do this with all my motorcycles (expect for the /6 which is at Donni's house) and it's so less stressful than trying to remember to put them on a bit of a charger each day.

            I use the Yuasa, 'cause it has the lights that tell you when it's good (green) or charging (yellow led comes one) http://www.yuasabatteries.com/chargers.php
            Harbor freight has the ones with just one light for like $6 on sale quite often.

            I stick the Fused Ring Connector permanently on the battery, then it really it just plug and forget. Have it on my miata too.
            http://www.yuasabatteries.com/accessories.php



            Ross Kuhns



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            Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:31:28 -0600
            Subject: NPC: Optima battery question
            From: mcookson@???
            To: miatapower@???

            Hi guys,

            I'm in need of a new battery. The last one I got died because I basically hardly ever drive my Miata anymore (crying shame, I know). Do the Optima's last longer while not being charged by occasional driving? Or should I just settle for a cheap battery and buy them like they're disposable?

            I know I should put the battery on a trickle charger once a month, but somehow I'm too lazy to do even that...

            Thanks,
            Mark

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I pinged Zandr the other day, haven't heard
back.
 
Bill Cardell TurboDog's Dad www.flyinmiata.com www.fmwestfield.com Sales 1-800-359-6957 Tech 970-464-5600 Before you call, check out
http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/

 

From: chris@???
[mailto:chris@???] Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010
12:57 PMTo: Bill CardellCc: Miata Powerlist; Donni; Mark
CooksonSubject: RE: NPC: Optima battery question

does anyone know, is the power list now dead?   
 

-------- Original Message --------Subject: RE: NPC:
Optima battery questionFrom: "Bill Cardell"
<Bill@???>Date: Wed, December 09, 2009 3:52 pmTo:
"Donni" <donni@???>, "Mark Cookson"
<mcookson@???>Cc: Miata Powerlist
<miatapower@???>
Oddly enough, I believe this is why the alternator is ecu
controlled on nb > cars. The ecu looks at the intake air temp as one of the
parameters for charging voltage/current.  Wouldn't think there would be a
strong correlation between air at the MAF and battery temp in the
trunk?
 
Bill Cardell
TurboDog's Dad
www.flyinmiata.com
www.fmwestfield.com
Sales
1-800-359-6957 Tech
970-464-5600 Before you call, check out http://www.flyinmiata.com/FAQ/
 

From: miatapower-bounces@??? [mailto:miatapower-bounces@???]
On Behalf Of DonniSent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:23
PMTo: Mark CooksonCc: Miata PowerlistSubject:
Re: NPC: Optima battery question
If you lay out the cash for a good battery (AGM) don't ruin it with
a cheap charger (ask me how I know about this...). Buy a Battery Tender brand
or other quality temp sensing, regulated charger. More up front but cheaper in
the long run......as with most things.For your research and reading
pleasure, check out this PDF (page 9 in particular) from one of the major
battery manufacturers (pretty sure the Westco is a rebadged WP/Deka as are
many others).Regarding Absorbed Electrolyte (AGM) type batteries, from
the East-Penn PDF (page 9);"Automatic
temperature-sensing, voltage-regulated chargers must be used.Charge
voltage must be limited(14.4 to 14.6 volts maximum at 68°F)"
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Mark Cookson <mcookson@???> wrote:
Thanks
for the tip on the battery charger and cable.  The local BatteriesPlus
is close to the local Harbor Freight so maybe I can get a new battery and a
way to keep from killing it in one shot.

Sounds like the Optimas are hit or miss.  I'll see what BP tries
to sell me...

Thanks everyone!

Mark

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Ross Kuhns <rosskuhns@???> wrote:

I don't know the ins/outs of Optima's, but really, just put the thing
on a float charger; it monitors and only turns itself on when the power
drops. They're "plug and forget about it". I do this with all my
motorcycles (expect for the /6 which is at Donni's house) and it's so less
stressful than trying to remember to put them on a bit of a charger each
day.  I use the Yuasa, 'cause it has the lights that tell you
when it's good (green) or charging (yellow led comes one)  http://www.yuasabatteries.com/chargers.phpHarbor
freight has the ones with just one light for like $6 on sale quite
often. I stick the Fused Ring Connector permanently on the
battery, then it really it just plug and forget. Have it on my miata too.
http://www.yuasabatteries.com/accessories.php Ross
Kuhns  

Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:31:28 -0600Subject: NPC: Optima battery
questionFrom: mcookson@???To: miatapower@???

Hi guys,

I'm in need of a new battery.  The last one I got died because I
basically hardly ever drive my Miata anymore (crying shame, I know).
 Do the Optima's last longer while not being charged by occasional
driving?  Or should I just settle for a cheap battery and buy them
like they're disposable?

I know I should put the battery on a trickle charger once a month,
but somehow I'm too lazy to do even that...

Thanks,
Mark

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